After years of selling our Remington 700 ML 209 conversion, and installing many hundreds of them, I still enjoy it when folks take the time to send feed back. I installed our kit on the customer's bolt below. After he got it back, I received the very detailed message shown below (and received permission to share it with you).
Subject: Remington 700 ML 209 Conversion
Badger Ridge Staff
I got to the range yesterday (finally) to do some testing. As expected I had to do just a bit of tuning on the breech plug to allow the primer to fit properly with the provided drill bit. The time at the range sort of got away from me so did not get to test every powder option that I wanted too, however my plan was to end up with Blackhorn 209, so that is what I ended up using for most of the testing.
Powders Initially Desired to be Tested
Pyrodex Select Powder – did not get a chance to test.
Pyrodex Pellets – did shoot one three round group with this powder source
Triple Se7en Magnum Pellets – did shoot one three round group with this powder source
Blackhorn 209 – Shot 15 loads with this powder
Barnes - 245 grain - .451 Spit-Fire MZ™ - 1763 fps
T/C - 250 grain - .451 Polymer Tip - 1712 fps
Harvester - 260 grain - .451 Polymer Tip - 1705 fps
I ended up with the Blackhorn 209 powder (100 grains by volume), the Harvester 260 PT Shockwave bullet, and CCI Shotgun Primers giving just under 1.5” groups @ 100 yards. I think I can actually improve on that. I shot 21 rounds with the new 209 Conversion setup and did not experience one misfire of a 209 primer during this testing. Plans are to do some additional testing to build a proper scale as my Bushnell Scope has a BDC reticle. I would also like to revisit the use of Pyrodex & Triple Se7en Magnum pellets as that is a very convenient method to load and/or reload for a second shot versus the Blackhorn 209 loose powder. I did clean between (3) shot groups and was a bit surprised at the amount of “black” residue from the Blackhorn. It did not seem to be any cleaner than the other powder sources. Maybe I was expecting too much from the advertising.
The only downside with this new setup is the removal of the fired 209 primers and reloading of a new one seems to take a bit more time than the old #11 percussion caps. However, the greatly improved ignition system and lack of any powder blowback in one’s face is well worth that. Besides, I have not had to use a follow-up shot in all my deer hunting for the past 50 years and do not plan on starting now.
From my experience and initial testing, you have a very well designed product and have given my Remington 700 ML new life.
Welcome to The Badger's Den. Normally I discuss our muzzle loader products, with a focus on our sealed breech 209 modifications for Remington 700 ML and the Ruger 77/50. If you don't want to read about a boy's first deer... feel free to click any of the links along the right side which will take you towards the info you are looking for.
Today, I just want to brag a little about my oldest son, who shot his first deer over the Special Youth Hunting Weekend. It's a very nice buck! And his very first deer!
We were hunting a small 17 acre, swampy, privately owned parcel in the middle of suburbia. The owner (a friend) was getting lots of complaints from the neighbors about deer destroying their gardens. I promised him we could help. He's relieved to tell the complaining neighbors that there is a hunter dealing with the problem.
I did the research and from one area in the very middle of the property we were legal to discharge firearms, and if we were 15' up in the air, that firearm could be a rifle. So I put a 15' two man ladder stand there. After being in the stand about 1 hour on the first day of the special youth hunt, some deer came in... but as it was so early in the season, with so much greenery still on the branches is was hard to see what came in. We could only see something brown moving under the lower canopy. Luckily my boy was patient, still, and quiet as he waited for the shot. When this bruiser decided to establish his dominance on a smaller buck, he stopped broadside too us in one of the few areas we had no obstructions. My son chose that moment to send a super sonic 300 BLK round right into his shoulder. He went all of 20 yds (in a circle) and dropped.
After getting the buck I realized that it would be appropriate to post about it here. See, that rifle has many things we sell here on it. As my boy barely weighs over 100lbs, he's pretty recoil shy. Thus 300BLK and a suppressor. Nothing reduces felt recoil like a good suppressor. He's just now hitting his growth spurt, and the adjustable stock on the AR works well for growing kids. And seeing the parcel is in the middle of suburbia, the noise suppression took the 'boom' down to hearing safe levels for us*, and a small crack for the neighbors.
From muzzle to grip there's stuff we sell in this rifle. I converted a solvent trap to a Form 1 suppressor (and also converted the AR to a Form 1 Short Barreled Rifle). I free floated the fore end with a carbine length quad rail, but softened the grip with our Picatinny Rail covers. I replaced the gritty standard AR trigger with a NM Two Stage trigger from RRA. I tighened the fit between the upper and lower with an accu-wedge, and I replaced the straight slotted screw that held the grip on with the proper hex head head drive cap grip screw too.
It is wonderful to see your child succeed. Even more wonderful when he does it by applying the lessons and techniques you try to teach, and while using the tool you conceived of and put together for the task!
*Assuming hearing safe... I don't have a DB meter. There is no doubt its much quieter and better than un-supressed.
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